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no-X píše:Vivec: Proč tedy eVGA doporučila svým uživatelům 191 drivery nepoužívat?

no-X píše:Herkis: Odkdy se osciloskop používá na zjištění přepětí? Pokud napětí z 1,5V náhodně vyletí na několikanásobek, nechápu, proč by takový výkyv nemohl kvalitní voltmetr zaznamenat.

odpálili si to určitě sami, protože mají v podpisu rekordy z 3D marku, je to náhodně odešlý hardware, atp...

According to a EVGA tech installing 195.39s may help, but if damage has already been done it won't help

crashPC píše:

odpálili si to určitě sami, protože mají v podpisu rekordy z 3D marku, je to náhodně odešlý hardware, atp...

houby šílená hypotéza, normální jev ty, kašpare...

protože mají v podpisu rekordy z 3D marku

crashPC píše:

protože mají v podpisu rekordy z 3D marku

TOHLE BEZ PŘETAKTOVÁNÍ NEJDE

Courtesy of Unwinder the developer of Precision:

That's an internal issue of all currently available 190.xx series.

Problem background:
Since 190.xx series NVIDIA driver's internal resource manager is trying to precache thermal sensors information in the registry during the first startup after installation. This mechanism doesn't seem to work fine yet, under some conditions sensor detection and precaching algorithm can fail and store incorrect sensor type information in the registry causing temperatures to disappear till the ForceWare re-installation.

Temporary solution:

Until the problem is not fixed by NVIDIA, there are still some temporary tricks allowing to solve it. First, you may just perform complete Foreware re-install, this will also cause precached thermal sensor information to be removed from the registry and to be re-detected by ForceWare on the next start. Second, you may manually remove corrupted thermal sensor information from the registry and this way cause the ForceWare to re-detect it on the next reboot. To do it open regedit then search and delete all instances of RmThermalProviderInfo and RmThermalProviderNum entries in the registry. Then reboot.

And let's hope that it won't take long time to fix it from NVIDIA side.



#2Problem - the 191.07 drivers increases power draw. But not to a dangerous extent. Unless you have your card OCed very high. at my clocks of 774 on the gtx 285, it was enough to cause a spike and fritzed the card out. Strangely enough Nothing smelled funny. The cards just "died". In Iride4u's case, i believe instead of his cards giving, his PCIE/nf200chip on the board gave in.

When i tested with stock working GT8800s the spike on the voltmeter wasnt even there (though there was a bit of gain on the meter it can be accorded to a mechanical rounding).

Suggestion - stay away from these drivers if youve got some crazy OC going like me. These are indeed ticking timebombs. The more you stress it at a go the more probably you give the spikes to occur at high OCs. in my case. OCCT and constant furmark did it.

Lesson - wait for a month before even trying new drivers ><

This was the only conclusion i could come up with after all the discussions with iride, and everyone else here. Not only does this explain irides fried board and funky volt tuner, it also explains my case, and why some saw problems but others did not. This also explains the increase in temps from these drivers. The VRMs on the PCB are indeed drawing more power.

For those with problems now. Test your cards and your boards. If your very unlucky there is a chance you could have fritzed both out. Again this is just my personal conclusion to this matter.


#3if your using an nf200 chip your gambling with blind cards. The issue is definitely (almost since evga-tech were able to reproduce the problem) driver related. the 191.07 did something. we dont know what exactly yet, but it did something on a bios/hardware level (again were not sure) that causes gradual degradation of the system/rig.

You will be fine for a while and all of a sudden your system will jsut start dying.
It starts with being unable to play some games, then all games, then PCIE lanes just seem to "die". everything works fine you pass all OC testing, you can pass furmark or vantage, but for some reason games just freeze. until you end up like some of us who has tried everything that is possible to troubleshoot it and your computer just freezes (by freeze i mean blackscreen, unable to return from failed nvidia drivers) while even on idle.

frustrating, and im very worried using this system now in fear of causing damage to my other hardware... but i gotta work...

#4These issues did not start until I installed the 191.07 WHQL drivers.

As it stands right now I can not play any games on my machine. 2D/ Desktop, basic applications work fine. When launching any games (Painkiller Black via Steam, UT3, Fallout 3 etc) and actually loading into them (ie loading a save or starting new) my machine will be ok for anywhere from 0 to 30 seconds and then it looks like high res rainbow colored bubble wrap across the screen. Hard boot is the only thing that will clear it.

I was running the Win 7 64 RTM at the time of update. I attempted to revert to the 186 drivers but the issue persisted. I then formatted and reinstalled XP Pro, thinking Win 7 drivers were just not mature enough and installed the 185 drivers for XP (I had decent luck with them in the past). I installed UT3 and found myself with the same issue. Different OS, clean format, Different drivers. I opened my case and notes all components were cool to the touch except my card (even the sound card two slots below is fine). All stickers on the card were bowed and coming off the card indicating the heat was excessive. I have had this card since Around Feb and have had zero issues until now.

At this point BFG has another GTX 280 OCX on the way as I thought maybe my card just happened to die. I plan on trying to reset CMOS and flash BIOS if needed to start from a clean slate. After reading the driver stopped working threads, and worst of all notes over on the EVGA forum stating this may have causes actual damage to the motherboard I am very worried the replacement card is not going to do the trick. Several posts mention a correlation between the NF200 chip on the mainboard and the 191.07 drivers.

Has anyone had any experiences with this or further insights, suggestions? My PSU (not mentioned in sig) is a PC P&C Silencer 750 Quad. All components are at stock as I never got around to OC'ing. The rest of my system specs are below.

HeavyHemi píše:Point of order here, those comments are not by Unwinder. What was edited out, which was by Unwinder, was the fix for the GPU temp readings issue.

When i tested with stock working GT8800s the spike on the voltmeter wasnt even there (though there was a bit of gain on the meter it can be accorded to a mechanical rounding).

This was the only conclusion i could come up with after all the discussions with iride, and everyone else here

no-X píše:...Ti uživatelé komunikovali nejen v rámci fóra, ale i s eVGA a uváděli tam, co jim bylo sděleno. ...

dmoheban píše:Here is a message I got from one of the Evga Senior technicians:

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We have no indication that either instances are related. You should be able to use current drivers with your products on the classified motherboard and any othr motherboard without problems.


Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards



Fon:
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Peter Tersluisen
Technical Director European Operations



-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: david moheban [mailto:moheban79@charter.net]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 3. November 2009 15:20
An: Arne Seifert; Florian Wendt; Peter Tersluisen
Betreff: Will my system blow up with 191.07?

Hi,

I've been reading the forums about this driver bug that kills hardware and naturally I am a little worried. I have a Classified 759 with two 285s and the 191.07 drivers installed. Should I uninstall these drivers?
Is there a problem that may burn hardware? Are these just random occurences?

Thank you very much.

David N Moheban."

Bucho95 píše:Naprosto nechápu vaše problémy, já stihl dneska dohrát Mass Effect a rozehrát Dragon Age...ale hry jsou asi pro většinu vedlejěí co? K žádnému výsledku se stejnak nedoberete, takže radši počkejte na nové informace a testy od nějakých profesionálů (redaktoři z hw webu atd.) - to už by bylo lepší přemýslet o nesmrtelnosti chrousta.