AMD Navi - Info, spekulace
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"The more you buy, the more you save" AI everywhere - Nvidia CEO at Computex 2023 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhlE3m1trM4
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Vega Primitive Shader combines the functions of vertex and geometry shader and with the right knowledge you can discard game based primitives at an incredible rate" https://pcper.com/2017/01/amd-vega-gpu- ... tecture/2/
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Ty čísla vypadaj total mimo. Nesedící kapacity paměti na sběrnice, počet SP nesedící na čipy ala pokud by 7700XT měl jen 1 blok proč tak málo aktivních SP a pod.
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Mě tam teda neseděj akorát ty kapacity VRAM vzhledem ke sběrnici, ale na počtu WGPs/SPs nevidím nic co by mělo být mimo. Můžeš specifikovat co přesně ti tam s ALU nesedí?
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https://videocardz.com/press-release/mi ... 000-series
high-performance 16Gb/16Gbps GDDR6 memory solution is now available with AMD Radeon™ RX 6000 Series graphics cards built on the AMD RDNA™ 2 gaming architecture. Using Micron’s advanced 1z process technology, this latest version of GDDR6 enables up to 512GB/s system performance for demanding applications like gaming and graphics
high-performance 16Gb/16Gbps GDDR6 memory solution is now available with AMD Radeon™ RX 6000 Series graphics cards built on the AMD RDNA™ 2 gaming architecture. Using Micron’s advanced 1z process technology, this latest version of GDDR6 enables up to 512GB/s system performance for demanding applications like gaming and graphics
\\\\“Micron is passionate about driving product innovation in leading-edge graphics for our customers. Our GDDR6 Ultra-Bandwidth Solution, in collaboration with AMD GPU capability, will provide an enhanced user experience and advanced performance in gaming.”
Short version of what this article means: A part of the shortages that have caused the lack of video cards comes from a shortage of VRAM. AMD obviously was talking to the video card makers about why there aren't more Radeon 6000 cards out there, and were told by the card makers themselves that GDDR6 is also in short supply. AMD made deals to get more GDDR6 made to address this problem. Now, faster or slower GDDR6...it's still not GDDR6X, but this Micron stuff sounds like it will be for the low end cards.
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"The more you buy, the more you save" AI everywhere - Nvidia CEO at Computex 2023 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhlE3m1trM4
Vega Primitive Shader combines the functions of vertex and geometry shader and with the right knowledge you can discard game based primitives at an incredible rate" https://pcper.com/2017/01/amd-vega-gpu- ... tecture/2/
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Vega Primitive Shader combines the functions of vertex and geometry shader and with the right knowledge you can discard game based primitives at an incredible rate" https://pcper.com/2017/01/amd-vega-gpu- ... tecture/2/
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Vsak 16Gbps pameti ty karty uz maji ne? Nebo mi neco uniklo?
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To je zpráva od Micronu. Samsung je vyrábí už dávno ale Micron se teď přidává. Tzn AMD karty na tom budou lépe s dostupností paměti a i NV bude moci více brát v potaz případné karty s 2x takovou velikostí GDDR6. Nevim ale o tom že by RAM byly ten bottleneck dostupnosti, takže moc bych od toho nečekal.
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https://wccftech.com/amd-next-gen-rdna- ... -stacking/
3D Infinity cache ? takže po Ryzenu s V-cache budou mít stohovanou cache i Radeony
3D Infinity cache ? takže po Ryzenu s V-cache budou mít stohovanou cache i Radeony
"The more you buy, the more you save" AI everywhere - Nvidia CEO at Computex 2023 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhlE3m1trM4
Vega Primitive Shader combines the functions of vertex and geometry shader and with the right knowledge you can discard game based primitives at an incredible rate" https://pcper.com/2017/01/amd-vega-gpu- ... tecture/2/
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Vega Primitive Shader combines the functions of vertex and geometry shader and with the right knowledge you can discard game based primitives at an incredible rate" https://pcper.com/2017/01/amd-vega-gpu- ... tecture/2/
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"The more you buy, the more you save" AI everywhere - Nvidia CEO at Computex 2023 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhlE3m1trM4
Vega Primitive Shader combines the functions of vertex and geometry shader and with the right knowledge you can discard game based primitives at an incredible rate" https://pcper.com/2017/01/amd-vega-gpu- ... tecture/2/
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Vega Primitive Shader combines the functions of vertex and geometry shader and with the right knowledge you can discard game based primitives at an incredible rate" https://pcper.com/2017/01/amd-vega-gpu- ... tecture/2/
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Stále víc se vynořují na povrch spekulace o nových NAVI3x, ale celkem zarážející je hlavně to, že u NAVI 33 (údajně karta s výkonem na úrovni dnešních 6800/6900XT) je 128bit sběrnice a to znamená pouze 8GB VRAM
Dokonce i no-x to tak nějak potvrzuje:
https://diit.cz/clanek/vykon-radeonu-rx ... 900-za-5xx
To sem zvědavej co AMD připraví. Ale 8GB v téhle výkonové kategorii je zhovadilost, zbytečně omezující výkon.
Dokonce i no-x to tak nějak potvrzuje:
https://diit.cz/clanek/vykon-radeonu-rx ... 900-za-5xx
To sem zvědavej co AMD připraví. Ale 8GB v téhle výkonové kategorii je zhovadilost, zbytečně omezující výkon.
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Doufám že to tak nebude. Mít jen 8GB RAM na celé kartě už je na novou generaci málo.
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Tohle ale nebude žádná 4K karta, bude to nástupce Radeonu 6600XT, 128-bit lower-maintream karta. To že někdo hypuje výkon na úroveň 6900XT no to ještě uvidíme. Jako tchnicky vzato by tam 16GB šlo dát, stačilo by nasadit více modulů že, udělat dva modely třeba 7600 a 7600XT, 8 a 16GB, kdo chce více, připlatí si, ale to se dnes nenosí, něco jako vyjít vstříc zákazníkovi nebo nechat výběr nebo nedej bože hodně Vram na cheap consumer kartě je velký nenene pro tyhle firmy.
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Spíš nejde ani tak o 4K jako o Raytracing, který dost solidně žere VRAM. Spekuluje se i o výrazném navýšení RT výkonu u NAVI 3x . Což by bylo dost pitomý - RX6800 jsou v RT slabé, ale defakto zbytečných 16GB (hry s pořádným RT na tom dobře neběhají). A další generace bude mít vyšší RT výkon = mohla by být v RT srovnatelná minimálně s Ampere... ale zase to při stejným výkonu bude mít méně VRAM, takže bude výkon na tomhle drhnout.
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"The more you buy, the more you save" AI everywhere - Nvidia CEO at Computex 2023 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhlE3m1trM4
Vega Primitive Shader combines the functions of vertex and geometry shader and with the right knowledge you can discard game based primitives at an incredible rate" https://pcper.com/2017/01/amd-vega-gpu- ... tecture/2/
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Vega Primitive Shader combines the functions of vertex and geometry shader and with the right knowledge you can discard game based primitives at an incredible rate" https://pcper.com/2017/01/amd-vega-gpu- ... tecture/2/
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https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-rdna3-g ... processors
Rumored specs of RDNA3 architecture has changed
The Navi 31 with 6 Shader Engines, 12 Shader Arrays and 48 Work Group Processors would ship with up to 12288 Stream Processors, that’s a reduction of 20% in core count compared to previously rumored 15360 cores. The same applies to Navi 32, which instead of 10240 cores would ship with 8192 Stream Processors. For the Navi 31 this means 4096 cores instead of 5192, but it should be noted that lower core count was mentioned by Greymon55 before.
Rumored specs of RDNA3 architecture has changed
The Navi 31 with 6 Shader Engines, 12 Shader Arrays and 48 Work Group Processors would ship with up to 12288 Stream Processors, that’s a reduction of 20% in core count compared to previously rumored 15360 cores. The same applies to Navi 32, which instead of 10240 cores would ship with 8192 Stream Processors. For the Navi 31 this means 4096 cores instead of 5192, but it should be noted that lower core count was mentioned by Greymon55 before.
"The more you buy, the more you save" AI everywhere - Nvidia CEO at Computex 2023 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhlE3m1trM4
Vega Primitive Shader combines the functions of vertex and geometry shader and with the right knowledge you can discard game based primitives at an incredible rate" https://pcper.com/2017/01/amd-vega-gpu- ... tecture/2/
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Vega Primitive Shader combines the functions of vertex and geometry shader and with the right knowledge you can discard game based primitives at an incredible rate" https://pcper.com/2017/01/amd-vega-gpu- ... tecture/2/
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Heh, AMD zjistilo, že NVidia bude v *** tak v rámci ziskovosti asi zužitkují více křemíku když ty čipy trochu locknou proti původnímu plánu?
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Tak jestli vypinaj jednotky... tak to jsem rad že jsem si sehnal 6900 XT nesnaším lockly neuplný Core.
Si pěkně počkam aź vyjde nějaky lepší čisty plnohodnotný monolit od AMD.
Si pěkně počkam aź vyjde nějaky lepší čisty plnohodnotný monolit od AMD.
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Monolitu uz se asi krome nejnizsi tridy nedockas.
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Nevypínají jednotky, to by měly být právě specifikace "plného" jádra. Akorát to asi stejně nebude monolit, když to má být MCM.
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Amd si asi dost veri proti nvidii. Asi pocitaji s tim, ze vykon nahoni prepalenejma frekvencema. Mozna si rekli, ze to radsi vyzenou na ukor spotreby...kdyz vysoka spotreba karet prochazi nvidii, tak by v amd byli hloupi, kdyby to nedelali taky.del42sa píše: ↑pon 2. kvě 2022, 14:06 https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-rdna3-g ... processors
Rumored specs of RDNA3 architecture has changed
The Navi 31 with 6 Shader Engines, 12 Shader Arrays and 48 Work Group Processors would ship with up to 12288 Stream Processors, that’s a reduction of 20% in core count compared to previously rumored 15360 cores. The same applies to Navi 32, which instead of 10240 cores would ship with 8192 Stream Processors. For the Navi 31 this means 4096 cores instead of 5192, but it should be noted that lower core count was mentioned by Greymon55 before.
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