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Mam vazny, pravdepodobne, HW problem, ze nemohu letat online mi tak nevadi ale nutne potrebuji funkcni PC do skoly kvuli domenovemu radici.

Sestava:
MB MSI cipset VIA KT600, Athlon XP2500+ Barton (bezne pretaktovany na 3200+), 2x512 DDR400 PQI CAS3, HDD Seagate IV SATA 200GB 7200ot/m, LG DVD-RW a Plextor CD-RW, zvuk SB Audigi, ATI TV WONDER Stereo, PCI sitovka D-Link, GPU ATI X 1600 PRO 256DDR4, zdroj FORTRON 300 W s PFC (1,5-2 roky).

OS: WIN XP SP2+ all zaplaty k aktualnimu datu
Drivery: MB VIA Hyperion 4.56, GPU ATI Catalyst 6.11, zvuk SB, DX9c unor 2006.
DISK: utilita-zapnuto 48LBA pro spravu disku vetsich nez 137GB v registrech WIN.

Disk rozdelen v PQ Magic 7 na 4 primarni oddily (C,D,E=NTFS / F=FAT 32 asi 10GB).
Jeden (C= 10GB, bootovaci a zaroven systemovy disk(slozka Windows)/oddil) aktivni, na nem zavadeci soubory: boot ini, NTLDR, NTDETECT.com atd,..



Problem:
1) samovolne se mi pousti po startu CHKDISK a opravuje konzistence na napr E/F . Pousti se neustale dokola kazdy reset/zapnuti PC. Jakmile ve WIN pustim CHKDISK a dam vyhledat chyby a opravit tak pak uz se CHKDISK po startu sam nepusti.
2) CHKDISK opravuje po resetu nebo zapnuti nekdy sam od sebe C (systemovy a bootovaci oddil). Vetsinou odstrani mensi nekonzistenci jako nadbytecny index. To jsem zjistil s admin konzole a prohlizece udalosti.
3) jakmile chci udelat pres DRIVE IMAGE (dale DI) zalohu pod DOS, nelze protoze DI najde nejakou chybu na disku, bat sector apod,...
Nastvim ve WIN rucne CHKDISK a dam reset, po resetu se opravi index nejcasteji a je to vetsinou OK, pak uz DI vytvori zalohu korektne vcetne provereni vadnych sektoru a verify.
NEKDY ale musim CHKDISK pustit i 3x aby DI udelal korektni zalohu.
4) asi po 10-14 dnech, proste nahoda jednou PC zapnu, najede BIOS atd,...vyberu si OS WIN XP (mam tam servr 2003 na E oddilu) a behem nacitaciho cerneho okenka kde bezi pruh tak dole na case me vubec nesviti HDD (cervena), pak nic a blik (modra smrt pravdepodobne) a reset. Po resetu to same a porad dokola, nejde F8, respektive jde ale nejde najet ani do nouzoveho rezimu.
Proste OS XP i Servr 2003 jsou mrtve.
5) pustim pred diskety v DOS Drive Image a dam obnovit korektni zalohu (overenou pri delani zalohy VERIFY=OK)
ale ted najednou pri zapisu na oddil C kde obnovuji WIN XP a boot bat sector nebo jina chyba.

DISK: stahl jsem udelal si disketu s SEAGATE utilitou na disky, bezela si 2,5 hod vcetne plneho provereni povrchu disku a disk je OK !
PAMETI: GOLD MEMORY, 1GB RAM proverene za cca 2,5-3hod OK !
Prehodil jsem ksandu SATA na druhy SATA konektor na desce, problem pretrvava, vymenil jsem ksandu za nahradni z desky, problem pretrvava. DISK nelze po havariii v bode 4 pustit.

DISK: u SATA disku se ozyva misty takove male, jemne vrceni mozna ze to je OK, je to vesmes jen tehdy kdyz pracuje. Nejsem si sice vedom toho ze to predtim nedelalo, protoze predtim jsem tyhle problemy nemel.
Od koupi nove GPU je mam neustale.
Jelikoz jsem vcera z PC vyndal vsechny PCI karty (zvuk, TV a sit), zustala v AGP8x jen GPU + zapojen SATA disk+disketova mechanika, ostatni mechaniky jsem taky odpolil fyzicky od napajeni. Totez USB zarizeni.

Problem zustal do WIN jsem se stejne nedostal ale alespon se mi podarila pres DISKETU DRIVE IMAGE obnovit zaloha korektne i s VERIFY a seek BAT SECTOR ! Coz predtim neslo. Take jsem HDD prehodil postupne na dalsi vetve zdroje ale mimo vetve kde mam zapojenou GPU.
Po uspesnem obnoveni zalohy jsme uz myslel ze to je zdroj a jak se ihned udelat po najeti do WIN XP zalohu pres DRIVE IMAGE ale ona se neudelala s hlaskou:
Cound not find read (ci tak nejak) Image soubor. Proste nemuzu najit zdrojovy soubor (s pomoci slovniku) (

Tak to asi nebude slabym diskem. 300W FORTRON by sna d utahl GPU+SATA HDD+Floppy a MB ne ?


Jo jeste mimo te utility od Seagate co hlasi ze disk je OK, tak mam SPEEDFAN a tam SMART rika o disku Kondice 96% a Vykon 96% podle toho jak mam fragmentovany disk. Da se teto utilite SMART verit ?
Je problem na MB, v radici nebo to muze byt CPU ?
Nebo ten 300W zdroj nestaci ani na vyse uvedene ??
Nebo je to OS WIN XP+SP2 ??

Prosim o rady, diky.

Checking file system on \DosDevices\C:
The type of the file system is NTFS.
Volume label is Disk WinXP.

Cleaning up minor inconsistencies on the drive.
Cleaning up 13 unused index entries from index $SII of file 0x9.
Cleaning up 13 unused index entries from index $SDH of file 0x9.
Cleaning up 13 unused security descriptors.

10369925 KB total disk space.
7755584 KB in 36308 files.
10312 KB in 2919 indexes.
0 KB in bad sectors.
123857 KB in use by the system.
53904 KB occupied by the log file.
2480172 KB available on disk.

4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
2592481 total allocation units on disk.
620043 allocation units available on disk.

Internal Info:
c0 e9 00 00 46 99 00 00 25 b7 00 00 00 00 00 00 ....F...%.......
fc 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 bd 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
d6 b7 1b 01 00 00 00 00 6a ce 88 07 00 00 00 00 ........j.......
1a 71 18 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 .q..............
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 20 51 79 0b 00 00 00 00 ........ Qy.....
99 9e 36 00 00 00 00 00 99 9e 36 00 00 00 00 00 ..6.......6.....
d4 8d 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 5d d9 01 00 00 00 ..........].....
Checking file system on \DosDevices\C:
The type of the file system is NTFS.
Volume label is Disk WinXP.
CHKDSK is verifying file data (stage 4 of 5)...
Windows replaced bad clusters in file 37921
of name \SYSTEM~1\_RESTO~1\RP93\snapshot\REPOSI~1\FS\OBJECTS.DATA.
File data verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying free space (stage 5 of 5)...
Free space verification is complete.
CHKDSK discovered free space marked as allocated in the
master file table (MFT) bitmap.
CHKDSK discovered free space marked as allocated in the volume bitmap.
Windows has made corrections to the file system.

10369925 KB total disk space.
7755588 KB in 36309 files.
10312 KB in 2919 indexes.
0 KB in bad sectors.
123829 KB in use by the system.
53904 KB occupied by the log file.
2480196 KB available on disk.

4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
2592481 total allocation units on disk.
620049 allocation units available on disk.

Internal Info:
c0 e9 00 00 47 99 00 00 26 b7 00 00 00 00 00 00 ....G...&.......
fc 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 b0 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
7c 55 19 01 00 00 00 00 6a ce 88 07 00 00 00 00 |U......j.......
72 9c c2 01 00 00 00 00 cc 3a cf ce 00 00 00 00 r........:......
bc 73 34 00 00 00 00 00 d6 b5 11 da 00 00 00 00 .s4.............
99 9e 36 00 00 00 00 00 99 9e 36 00 00 00 00 00 ..6.......6.....
d5 8d 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 10 5d d9 01 00 00 00 ..........].....

Checking file system on \DosDevices\C:
The type of the file system is NTFS.
Volume label is Disk WinXP.
CHKDSK is verifying file data (stage 4 of 5)...
Windows replaced bad clusters in file 37921
of name \SYSTEM~1\_RESTO~1\RP93\snapshot\REPOSI~1\FS\OBJECTS.DATA.
File data verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying free space (stage 5 of 5)...
Free space verification is complete.
CHKDSK discovered free space marked as allocated in the
master file table (MFT) bitmap.
CHKDSK discovered free space marked as allocated in the volume bitmap.
Windows has made corrections to the file system.

Znamena to ze disk je zhavy na reklamaci a je problem disku ?

Ten BAT SECTOR je fakt dobrej!
Kdysi jsem vyměnil všechny komponenty a pak jsem přicházel na to, že jsou nafouklý kondenzátory na boardu. Teď se už na kondíky koukám první. Sebemenší stopa sajrajtu na vršku či u paty, nebo jen lehce vyboulený vršek elektrolytů a není co řešit.

Your hard disk is a ST3200822AS with firmware 3.01.
The average temperature for this hard disk is 39C (MIN=27C MAX=52C) and yours is 40C.
Your hard disk's S.M.A.R.T. attributes are now being analyzed and a full report about the reliability, health and status of your hard disk is generated:
Your hard disk is not below any attribute threshold. This is good.
Your hard disk was never below any attribute threshold. This is good.
Your hard disk is now being compared to real data used to define normal values for your specific hard disk model. This way, the analysis can automatically use proper operating ranges. The images give you an idea of how each attribute is within such range. Current and raw values are shown for easier reference for experienced users. There are 1166 hard disk models in the current archive.
Attribute Current Raw Overall
Raw Read Error Rate 65 86187255 Very good
Spin Up Time 96 0 Normal
Start/Stop Count 99 1317 Normal
Reallocated Sector Count 100 0 Very good
Seek Error Rate 81 135843818 Very good
Power On Hours Count 97 2958 Very good
Spin Retry Count 100 0 Very good
Power Cycle Count 98 2190 Watch
Warning: Power Cycle Count is below the average limits (99-100).
Hardware ECC Recovered 65 86187255 Very good
Current Pending Sector 100 0 Very good
Offline Uncorrectable Sector Count 100 0 Very good
Ultra DMA CRC Error Rate 200 0 Very good
Write Error Rate 100 0 Very good
TA Increase Count 100 0 Very good


NOTE: not all warnings are reflected on fitness and performance overall values as relevancy is based upon the settings from the hard disk manufacturer who is the best entity deputed to define such relationships.

NOTE : your hard disk Power Cycle Count attribute current value (98) is below the normal range (99 - 100) reported for your specific hard disk model. Basically your hard disk was power cycled more times than the maximum number the average hard disk was. Power cycles put some stress on the hard disk mechanic. Sometimes power cycles can be caused by a loose hard disk power connector. Make sure it is properly fastened.

The overall fitness for this drive is 97%.
The overall performance for this drive is 98%.


Toto je hlaska se SMARTU pres SPeed Fan na www.

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Že by diskový řadič na desce byl na odchodu?

Shit píše:Že by diskový řadič na desce byl na odchodu?

A dle ceho soudis, ze to je radic, SMART pise neco na zdroji, ze ma snad nedostatek stavy ale to dle meho nazoru zvlastni, protoze idkyz jsme z PC vyndal vsechny karty a vymenil GPU AGP8x za PCI (Radeon 7000 ) + odpojil vsechny mechaniky mimo Floppy stejne mi ten SMART deep analyse na SpedFan strance pise ze mam jen 98% a to je pod normal hodnotu napeti zdroje.

Take jsem vymelil kabel k SATA a zkusil to v obou SATA konektorech, vysledek je uplne stejny !
Takze vcem to je ? DISK, SATA nebo ZDROJ ? Nebo oboje, tedy vsechno ?

Tak aby toho nebylo malo, NERO ani CLONE najednou NEUMI poznat v DVD-RW mechanice DVD-RW medium a obe aplikace ho odmitaji premazat !! Rikaji ze to je DVD+/-R !!! pritom to je prepisovatelne DVD !

No to me poser, pravdepodobne doslo k nejakemu pozkozeni dat na C a programy nejsou korektni !

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