GeForce GTX 780/770 - info, recenze, zkušenosti

[spree]

Gigabyte ma, aspon co som videl ja recenzie nizsiu teplotu.
MSI ked je v tom Gaming mode a ma vyssiu takty, aj ked stale nie take ako Gigabyte tak uz dava nieco cez 1800 otacok.
A Gigabyte ma myslim 3x8cm vetraky oproti 2x10cm u MSI.

[0martas0]

Ale stejně, když hraju stejně mám zaplej zvuk a pokud grafika vyloženě nehuči, zas tak to nevadí.

[morke]

Tady je velký problém recenzí, vzorek Gigabyte GTX 770 první dostal PCT, který kartu rozebral a potom to putovalo EHW, kde ji přepastovali. Takže brát teploty jako fakt nejde. U EHW má MSI 80 stupňů, ale jinde kolem 63 stupňů. Zatím to vidím na Gigabyte, ale zajímá mě Gainward Phantom s vysouvacími ventilátory. Nebudou vibrovat?

[Mr Lucas]

Dosavaď stály chladiče Phantom od Gainwardu za prd, pochybuju, že to u GTX 770 bude jiný.

[Ache]

Ne Phantoma ne! GTX680tka a podle fotek i 770tka mají debilně udělaný odvod tepla - krycí plech pod tím chladičem to teplo zadržuje...
Jediný Phantom který byl OK, byl GTX580 - tam to vyřešili o dost lépe - odvod vzduchu nebyl blokován... a zatímco žravá GTX580 phantom se chladila na cca 64°C @ 2000 otáček. Tak u té GTX680 byl problém jí dostat pod 70°C (kvůli boostu).

Chladič Phantom sice vypadá hodně Cool, ale karta je pak spíš Hot.

[ulver]

A mame tu recenziu na Asus GTX780 DCU2 OC. Skoda ze tento chladic nedali aj na GTX770tku
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS ... _OC/1.html

[0martas0]

Nojo, Asus chladiče dělat umí, jen tentokrát fakt nedokázal osadit kartu odpovídajícím chladičem ( mluvím o 770 )

[Ache]

A mame tu recenziu na Asus GTX780 DCU2 OC. Skoda ze tento chladic nedali aj na GTX770tku
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS ... _OC/1.html

No jako tenhle chladič vypadá stejně debilně jak ta pricenzna ze Serious sama 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... YTQs#t=11s

Jinak na Extraharware uveřejnil A. vágner log z GTX780. Takže Gigabyte je u mě stále ve hře, protože power má rezervu i v tom jeho náročném testovacím úseku! Hodil sem to do grafu a pohoda:
http://abload.de/img/beznzvukfoqu.png
Je tam rezerva i na zvednutí napětí!

[ulver]

Nojo, Asus chladiče dělat umí, jen tentokrát fakt nedokázal osadit kartu odpovídajícím chladičem ( mluvím o 770 )

Podla mna na GTX680 osadili poriadny chladic, pretoze to bol svojho casu high-end. Dnes je high-end Titan a GTX780tka. Takze GTX770 to odniesla v podobe uboheho chladica.

@Ache
Ten chladic od Asus na GTX780 OC je v pohode. Podla recenzie nechladi az tak zle.
Ache nespekuluj a ber Gigabyte GTX780 OC. Ked si bol spokojny s Gigabyte GTX670 OC tak nie je co riesit. Mimochodom Gigabyte uz chystaju aj Titana s WF3 chladicom.
http://videocardz.com/42921/gigabyte-an ... 50w-cooler

[Ache]

Ache nespekuluj a ber Gigabyte GTX780 OC. Ked si bol spokojny s Gigabyte GTX670 OC tak nie je co riesit. Mimochodom Gigabyte uz chystaju aj Titana s WF3 chladicom.
http://videocardz.com/42921/gigabyte-an ... 50w-cooler

Asi to také tak vidím... u toho MSI mě trochu zarazilo to, že i přes nižší otáčky je hlučnější... každopádně power-limit u gigabyte (300W) dostačuje v pohodě. Takže uvidím až budou i konkurenční karty na trhu jaké budou ceny.

[spree]

Tady je velký problém recenzí, vzorek Gigabyte GTX 770 první dostal PCT, který kartu rozebral a potom to putovalo EHW, kde ji přepastovali. Takže brát teploty jako fakt nejde. U EHW má MSI 80 stupňů, ale jinde kolem 63 stupňů. Zatím to vidím na Gigabyte, ale zajímá mě Gainward Phantom s vysouvacími ventilátory. Nebudou vibrovat?

To MSI je divne v jednej veci, v normal mode ma vyssie teploty ako v gaming mode a to v dvoch recenziach co som pozeral.
Gigabyte ma najnizsi pocet reklamaci zo vsetkych znaciek.
Ako vyzera MSI GTX 780? Je to ten chladic co na MSI GTX 770?

[blaho]

Tak vcera som nainstaloval toho krasavca :

http://www.gigastore.sk/geforce-gtx770/ ... i-hdmi-dp/

Staru GTX 670 som predal na rychlo za 230 e. A nelutujem . OC potencial vyborny a karta ozaj ticha ako mucha.
Ked na nej zapnem Gaming mode tak hodi takt 1176 Mhz/7005 /vyrobca udava 1150/7000/ a ked som vcera vecer hral s partiou BF3 tak som ju ani nepocul, takze pre tych co o nej uvazuju - odporucam Za 355 eur je to super karta a do rozlisenia 1920x1200 plne staci .
Jasne ze prechod z gtx670 na 770 neni zazrak, ale kazdy rok menim VGA a o rok by som gtx670 nepredal moc dobre.

[durod]

skus jeste OC

[blaho]

sak som skusal cca 1300 MHz drzala, ale teraz mi staci ten vykon pri nastaveni Gaming : 1176 MHz , ked pride BF4 tak 1300 Mhz bude musiet drzat furt az kym nezhori Potom tu hodim teploty a to co som z nej dostal... len vcera vecer som ju hodil do PC, dneska makam do vecera. Ale budem mat 10 dni dovolenku, tak ju pretestujem.

[spree]

A kolko mas teplotu pri hrani BF3?
V akej skrinke ju mas? Mas ju dobre chladenu?
Preco si nesiahol po Gigabyte?

[dexterav]

Ne Phantoma ne! GTX680tka a podle fotek i 770tka mají debilně udělaný odvod tepla - krycí plech pod tím chladičem to teplo zadržuje...
Jediný Phantom který byl OK, byl GTX580 - tam to vyřešili o dost lépe - odvod vzduchu nebyl blokován... a zatímco žravá GTX580 phantom se chladila na cca 64°C @ 2000 otáček. Tak u té GTX680 byl problém jí dostat pod 70°C (kvůli boostu).

Chladič Phantom sice vypadá hodně Cool, ale karta je pak spíš Hot.

mno ja som ešte ani poriadneho phantoma nevidel
imho to chladnie je úplne rovnaké na fermi aj kepleroch a stojí rovnako pekne na prd
stačí tak na gk bez oc

[blaho]

A kolko mas teplotu pri hrani BF3?
V akej skrinke ju mas? Mas ju dobre chladenu?
Preco so nesiahol po Gigabyte?

case mam tuto : http://www.alza.sk/silverstone-sst-rv03 ... 272740.htm

Pri hrani BF3 v Gaming mode /detaily ULTRA/ teploty okolo 70 stupnov. A to som nezapol to zvatsene vatranie na case. A kartu nebolo vobec pocut.

A preco nie Gigabyte ? No Gigabyt ozaj nemusim, sice musim povedat ze ta 770 od Gigabytu vyzera dobre . Viac menej som sa rozhodoval medzi nou a MSI. Nakoniec som precital recenziu na extrahardware.cz a som sa rozhodol pre tu MSI.

citat extrahardware.cz :,,Když odhlédneme od ceny, která je hlavně u karty od MSI jako na houpačce, z obou nereferenčních modelů se mi více zamlouvala GTX 770 od MSI, která nabízí znatelně lepší provozní vlastnosti, přičemž je její výkon jen o málo nižší.

Pokud ale stavíte vyšší výkon na první místo (a do přetaktování svépomocí se moc nehrnete, jinak se dá náskok Gigabyte snadno stáhnout přetaktováním) a nějaké provozní vlastnosti považujete za podružné, mohla by vás oslovit spíše nabídka Gigabyte. ´´


ved tu uz asi boli tie linky :
test Gigabyte GTX 770: http://extrahardware.cnews.cz/recenze/g ... ava-zatezi
test MSI GTX 770 : http://extrahardware.cnews.cz/recenze/g ... ava-zatezi

Sice pri vybere rozhodli aj osobne sympatie ku MSI, mam s nimi len dobre skusenosti.

[spree]

Ty sa mas, ja som mal MSI aj Gigabyte a obidve znacky mam rad, len same dobre skusenosti s nimi mam

[_Jesper_]

Našiel som na Amazone trošku obsiahlejšiu recenziu na kartu EVGA GTX 780 SC ACX od užívateľa
S. Hao "Wacom User" (Gainesville, FL USA).

Až by mal niekto problém s anglickým jazykom použite Google translate ale upozorňujem , že ten prekladá všetko doslovne takže môže niektoré slová alebo vety skomoliť.

Recenzia :

I'm actually inclined to give this card a 4-star rating not because of its performance, but because of Nvidia holding back the GK110 for a year so they can rake in the additional profit from GK104, and Titan.

Certainly, the GTX680 (which this card is replacing) was, and still is, a great performing card, but its GK104 die represents nothing more than a mid-range Kepler, and Nvidia charging top of the line price for the GK104, when they had GK110 in the pipelines, seems purely greed-driven.

Perhaps I shouldn't be the one complaining since I did happily purchase the 680 on release day, but I did feel slighted, especially now, ~1 year later, with Nvidia finally releasing the GK110 in a consumer-grade card (I don't really consider Titan consumer-grade, nor does Nvidia).

Enough with my ramblings, let's get to the card itself.

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LOOK/FEEL:

The packaging, in lieu with the standard EVGA affair, is as you would expect ... plain.

I do like the nice touches such as the anti-static wrapped cables/adapters, stickers, and posters. However, there are no bundled games (Metro 2033) or 3DMark Pro which EVGA has started to offer, but the utility CD does come with some interesting tools such as the EVGA Pixel Clock, which allows compatible LCD monitors to run with higher-than-default refresh rate (search LCD Monitor Overclock for more information).

The card itself is nicely built. Not as fancy as the reference 780/690/Titan's metal cooler with plexiglass cover, but the plastic construct does feel fairly solid and *premium*, and certainly an upgrade from the typical flimsy plastic affair.

Note that this is a dual slot card measuring 11 inches long, so those using mini/mid tower configurations may have trouble fitting the card into the case. Also, compared to the reference 780 cooler design, the ACX fans seem to expel air into the case instead of out through the back, so make sure your case is fully ventilated.

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PERFORMANCE:

Thanks to the factory overclock, this card can reach Titan-level performance out of the box, and with quite a bit of OC headroom to boot. I managed to get my card to 1100mhz core @ +25mV while maintaining sub-80C load temp, which is quite amazing considering the reference card runs at 863mhz (-22% delta), and 967mhz factory OC (-12% delta).

Though I do not have a reference 780 to compare to, the ACX cooler does seem to help in keeping the temps in check. With the default 967mhz core, my load temperature was never over 70C, which is very nice to see. With the 1100mhz OC, the temperature does hit the 80C ceiling under load, but seems to stay there even when I raise the temperature target to 90C.

Overall, I'm very impressed with the silence and efficiency of the air cooling solution, especially since my old 680 would usually hit the 80C ceiling in minutes and throttle down under similar situations.

Now some hard numbers. These are average frame rates over 1 minute captured using fraps. All games were tested at 2560x1440 with maximum settings (FXAA/TXAA if applicable, otherwise 4xMSAA).

16G DDR3 800mhz (4Gx4). i7-2600K.
GTX780 ACX @ 1100mhz core, 6500mhz memory. +25mV. GeForce 320.18 WHQL.

Tomb Raider w/TressFX: 110
Metro 2033: 63
Crysis 3: 50
Bioshock Infinite: 103
Battlefield 3: 85

All the games, with the exception of Crysis 3, can be run under max settings at 2560x1440 with over 60fps, which is quite amazing considering how some of these games used to require multi-card solutions in order to reach similar performance. Even for Crysis 3, all that's required to achieve 60+ frames is to halve the TXAA (from 4x to 2x), which gives back ~15 frames.

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COMPETITION

Aside from the Titan, this is the fastest consumer-grade single card solution in the world, and since AMD has announced that GCN2 (9000 series) will not arrive until the end of 2013 or early 2014, the 780 will likely hold the performance throne for the next 6 months (unless something amazing happens with the 8000 rebranding).

Looking down from the GTX Titan, this card is a great value proposition. 2 less SMX, $350 less, but almost identical performance thanks to the default factory overclock. Of course, one can OC the Titan and further the performance gap, but the inherent value of this card should not be denied.

On the other hand, if the quirks of SLI/CF configurations (high latency, high power usage, micro stuttering, overheating, incompatibility, etc) are of no concern, then a pair of last generation 680s or 7970s will be significantly faster than this card, and the Titan, for that matter.

Last I checked, a brand new 7970/680 can be had for $400, with used ones for as low as $250-300, so it's a more than reasonable route to take.

Another thing I should mention is the GTX770, which was released couple days ago, itself a rebranded and retooled GTX680, but with much higher core/memory speeds, bringing it ahead of both the 7970 and the 680 (~5-10% last I checked), and since it retails for $400, it's certainly a much better value proposition compared to the 780.

Also, AMD is offering ~$100 worth of bundled games with the 7970 purchase (search AMD Never Settle Promo), something to consider if you are interested in the titles offered.

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PRO:
+Significant performance increase over GTX680
+Titan-like performance out of the box
+Comfortable OC headroom despite the fairly significant factory OC
+ACX cooler keeps the chip well under 80C
+ACX fans silent under load
+Will run most games maxed out at 1440p/1600p with 60+fps
+EVGA support/warranty
+12 year lifespan for ACX fans (though, who am I kidding, hardly anyone's going to keep this card for even half that length)

CON:
-Price ($499 has been the norm for top of the line cards for quite some years)
-Lack of game/utility bundles (EVGA decision, not Nvidia)
-Slightly *cheaper* construction compared to the reference 780
-Dual slot, 11-inch long, may not fit into mini/mid tower cases
-ACX fan expelling air inside the case instead of out through the back, may cause overheating in poorly ventilated cases
-Nvidia passing up the mid-range GK104 as high-end when this GK110 should have been top of the line a year ago

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FINAL THOUGHTS

Great card, though one can't help but feel being shafted by Nvidia, especially those who jumped on the 680 ship. Even now, Nvidia's pricing of this card ($650 vs. the typical $500 for top of the line cards) screams greed, but since there won't be anything new coming out of AMD in the foreseeable future (only 8000 OEM re-brand, most likely 3-5% faster clock speeds with no architecture change), this card will most likely remain overpriced, but the mid-range battle should heat up for the rest of the year with 7970/7950/680/670/770/760 all thrown into the fray.

I'm very happy with the card, but not with Nvidia's various greed-driven business practices. Though I suppose that's what happens in an oligopolistic market...

However my feelings are toward Nvidia, this is an amazing card, and a fine feat of precision engineering.

[spree]

Pri hrani BF3 v Gaming mode /detaily ULTRA/ teploty okolo 70 stupnov. A to som nezapol to zvatsene vatranie na case. A kartu nebolo vobec pocut.

Otacky ventilatora mas na auto?
Nevies nahodou, kolko stupnov si mal v normal mode?
Tam hreje paradoxne viac, tak to ma prednastavene..