War Thunder

[mouldy]

Tak konecne mam Spitfira Mk9. Puvodne jsem si myslel, ze bude konecne trochu rychlejsi a slusnej na historicky bitvy. Ale zatim mi to s nim vubec nejde. At stoupam jak chci, tak BF 109tky jsou vetsinou o kilak-dva vejs, i kdyz maji papirove horsi stoupani i rychlost. A jak se jim konecne dostanu do zad, tak mi vetsinou uleti...

[Jackiii]

K tomu se taky krucek po krucku dostavam, ale hrozne se mi libi ta XVI s tema obdelnikovyma kridlama. Na tu sem zvedavej

[LoCo99]

já si můžu urvat vlasy z Yak-1 .... proč je to ksakru jenom horší Yak 7 na vyššim tieru ? to mi fakt mozek nebere

na tak málo munice se dá sotva sestřelit jedno letadlo, sotva, prostě se to nedá pokud neni 80% zásah

jsem prostě toho názoru že HB jedině s OP letadlama, nejlíp tkaovejma co se poperou s vysokejma tierama (yak9T)

[HEAD]

Tak konecne mam Spitfira Mk9. Puvodne jsem si myslel, ze bude konecne trochu rychlejsi a slusnej na historicky bitvy. Ale zatim mi to s nim vubec nejde. At stoupam jak chci, tak BF 109tky jsou vetsinou o kilak-dva vejs, i kdyz maji papirove horsi stoupani i rychlost. A jak se jim konecne dostanu do zad, tak mi vetsinou uleti...

To je tim, ze nemci sou v tyhle hre OP.Stoupavost maj daleko vetsi nez meli v realu.Stejne tak akceleraci a maximalni rychlost.
To je dalsi duvod proc sem prestal hrat.Neschopny vyvojari co nedokazou udelat dobry FM(flight model).
Takova p51 je uplna tragedie.V realu 2 nejrychlesi letadlo v 2 svetovy(po tempestuV, kterej ma mimochodej jeste vic dojebanej FM jak P51) je v tyhle hre uplnej snek co akceleruje 2 hodiny na maximalni rychlost.

Btw spitfire mk9 ma nejlepsi stoupavost ze vsech britskych letadel krome stihacek...
Nejvic Op sou v tyhle hre nemci.Bf109F,G2,G10 sou totalni UFO.Ale co si pamatuju, tak spitfire mk9 je jedno za mala letadel, ktery sou pouzitelny.
Jo a in game staty vubec neplatej v HB neridte se podle nich.
Jo a jeste jedna rada spitfire mk9 a XVI sou da se rict stejny letadla.Mk xvi ma horsi stoupavost a o dost horsi zataceni a horsi vykon ve vyskach kolem 7km, ale je trochu rychlejsi a ma lepsi roll rate.MK9 je podle me lepsi.

[mouldy]

No jiste... podle skutecnosti by mel mit Spit o 5-6m/s lepsi stoupavost. Tady kdyz doletim na battlefield, tak jsou vsechny BF109tky vejs minimalne o kilak (6-8km). Vcetne tech nizsich levelu. Navic kdyz se nahodou stretnu celne, tak ja ho strilim do kridel a on me do pilota, protoze Spit ma za motorem misto poradnyho kveru benzinovou nadrz.

Vypada to, ze u HB skoncim zas u He112 B0, BF110tky a Spita Mk1. Pripadne u rusky Chaiky nebo Ishaka.

[LoCo99]

jakej je smysl brát na HB chaiku a ishaka když za 1. zasobnik je pryč to 10ti vteřin 2. budeš se tam nahánět s letadlama co tě rozstřelej kanonem na 2 rany

má někdo ten německej bombarder s 50mm kanonem ??


edit : právě jsem se málem rozplakal dojetim, na AB mi pomohla airacobra co sundala beaufighter a nějakýho japonce co mě pronásledovali dost dlouho

[mouldy]

jakej je smysl brát na HB chaiku a ishaka když za 1. zasobnik je pryč to 10ti vteřin 2. budeš se tam nahánět s letadlama co tě rozstřelej kanonem na 2 rany

Kdyz s tim nestrilis jak tard, tak je to v cajku... to jsou na tom hur letadla s kanonama, tem to dojde daleko rychlejs.
A treba proto, ze te nic nevykrouti.

[LoCo99]

a jak se budeš kroutit za letadlem co letí 700

[mouldy]

a jak se budeš kroutit za letadlem co letí 700

Zatim se mi nestalo, ze bych s Chaikou (tier1) byl proti tierum 10.

[LoCo99]

nebudeš proti tierum 10 ale budeš klidně proti 4kam, já s laggem 3-35 potkal 11 nebo 12 spitfire a krom toho i ten blbej lagg letěl 700 když sem to poslal proti zemi a nerozpadnul se

[HEAD]

Ja sem docela zvedavej na balanc hry v 1.33.Uz ted sou nemci OP a oni jim pridaj moznost namontovat dalsi konony na skoro vsechny letadla..
Takova tier7 bf109F s 3x20mm a 2x kulomet...stejna paleba sila jako Tier15 fw190D12, ale predpokladam, ze bude o dost lip zatacet..
Asi moc chlastaj vodku.

Nebo fw190A5 s 6x20mm to bude v arcade neskutecne OP..

[LoCo99]

mě se to moc nelíbí to možnost takový upravy letadel, kdyby radši udělali videa o tom jak funguje jaká munice a jak funguje celkově ten model poškození

[HEAD]

Tak uz vysel patch 1.33.Slibovali v nem opravy vsech spojeneckych fm to sem na to zvedavej asi to vyzkousim.

New aircraft

USSR
LaGG-3 8
LaGG-3 11
La-5 37
La-5F
Yak-9К
Yak-17
Britain
De Havilland DH.100 Vampire FB.Mk.5.

USA

Grumman F9F-5 Panther
Douglas BTD-1 Destroyer
Lockheed F-80C Shooting Star
Grumman F8F-1 Bearcat
Grumman F8F-1b Bearcat
Republic P-47D-28 Thunderbolt

(Notice: All new planes except Yak-9К and F9F-5 Panther are in progress of tuning their FM. By the release of 1.33 all FMs will be working. Same applies to USA planes that are already in the game – we hope most of their FM issues will be fixed by the release of 1.33)


Interface

Completely new tab for modifications
Clear display of influence of modifications on aircraft performance
Added selection of colour for the crosshair and several interchangeable crosshairs (colour selection and crosshair selection wil be updated)
with approaching of flutter speed instrumental speed will appear
during display of Speed and altitude, units of measurement have been added
added display of negative influence of externally carried armament

Graphics

New metal shading.
“Cloud quality” option will affect the quality of their reflections in the water as well
Cloud rendering in 3d mode is fixed
Propeller Disappearance has been fixed
The whole rendering system has been optimized,the whole rendering process has been made faster as well as rendering for grass.

Gameplay

Lots of new modifications for different planes. Almost all the modifications are upgrades for the planes, replacing old, worn parts with new ones ….. Some modifications are different, but they are the minority of what is planned (eg lendlease fuel, rear armor plate replacement).
New modifications added that will allow installation of gun and rocket pods
New approach to modifications' and armamament's research
Crew that took part in the battle are now blocked in the game for five minutes after quitting the battle. (or until the battle ends if it ends earlier). 5 minutes lock for all who leave in first 5 minutes in AB and HB, no lock for FRB
Players can now buy camo and decals with Golden Eagles (without achieving the needed requirements for unlock)
Shell racks are now consumables and should be replenished.
Ammo, rockets, torpedoes and bombs are spent after they are used in battle, not after the battle is over.
Weapons won't reload if there are no more purchased shell racks left. (except for “default” shell racks – they are free and unlimited but not that efficient)
When hitting with no damage – player won't receive rewards, but will get the message that no damage was done.
If your premium is over, after the battle is over in a debriefing window you will have an opportunity to buy premium for a week and thus get all the rewards you should receive if you were playing with premium.
You have an opportunity to buy modifications with golden eagles.
Healing speed Skill is replaced with weapon maintenance skill
Rockets for German and American planes added.
No air kills will be awarded with air collisions.

Economy

Aircraft Purchase Price lowered by 30%
modification purchase price lowered
Cost of the repair now depends on the installed modifications (Cost of repair of un-modified planes will be even lower, by 10-20%)
Reduction of repair cost of un-modified planes by about 10%
Experience requirements for unlocking new modules have been lowered
Repair Cost of Aircraft tier 11 to 18, have been lowered even further


FM changes:

MiG-15 bis WEP is fixed
La-5FN and LA7 performance at critical angles is fixed
Plane performance will be negatively affected by cannon pods
All externally carried armament (rockets, bombs, torpedoes and cannon pods) has been adjusted so that they affect aircraft performance more historically correct.

DM changes:
Damage of Mg’s and cannon shells increased, damage caused by the real kinetic energy of a shell is more accurate.
For the planes that have 1st and 2nd pilot DM is changed, so both pilots should be knocked out in order to lose the plane. That applies to:

B-17E
B-17E late
B-17G
B-24D
B-25
YeR-2 ACh30B
G4M1
G5N1
G8N1
PBY-5
PBY-5a
SM-79
А-26С
Flame protection modelling/simulation is added. After a fire outbreak in the engine area, the pilot is not injured while the fire seal is whole (20 seconds).

Armament

New bomb load options for Ju-87B2, Ju-87R2 , Ju-87D3, Ju-87D5.
New bomb load options for Ju-88A4.
New bomb load options for IL-4 including external load. Overall bomb load can reach up to 2 tons.
Load-out of the “default” shell racks for ShVAK and B-20 cannons is changed to HI-T/AP-I (in 1 to 1 proportion)

USA Browning 12.7 mm Mgs have new shell types, the old ones got their own names:

M1 – incendiary bullet
M23 - incendiary bullet (appeared in 1945, has starting speed of 1000 m/s, incendiary material's weight is 5 g)
M2 – armor piercing bullet
M20 – armor piercing incendiary tracer bullet
M8 – armor piercing incendiary bullet
M1 – tracer bullet

M23 and M20 bullets are available for the aircraft that served during the end of WWII and after.

BR-21 rocket added for German planes
"Tiny Tim" anti-ship rocket added for US planes


Additional weapons added:
Ruestzustand 1 ( R 1) for Bf .109 F -4 (2 x 20 mm MG .151/20 gun with ammo load of 125 rounds per each gun)
Ruestzustand 6 ( R 6)) for Bf .109 G -2, G -6, G -10 (2 x 20 mm MG .151/20 gun with ammo load of 125 rounds per each gun)
MG.151/20 with 125 rounds ammo load for Fw-190A-5
Rüstsatz 3 (R3) for Fw-190F-8 ( 2 x 30-mm MK -103 gun with ammo load of 35 rounds per each gun)
BR20 Rockets for Bf .109 G -6 / W - 2 rails under the wing panels
Ruestzustand 6 (R6) rockets for Fw-190A-5 - 2 rails under the wing panels.

Bug fixes
Penetration issue for 20mm AP-I shells for ShVAK fixed. For 50 m distance it is increased from 20m to 30 mm.
guidance angle for IL-4 turrets fixed
default bomb load for IL-4 is changed from 2x250 kg bombs to 10x100 kg or 10x50
Damage model of TBF-1C fixed. (ailerons durability is increased )

New features
You can select the shell racks for all planes that have defensive/turret armament
For all gun and rocket pods armament (rockets, bombs torpedoes and cannon pods) - their aerodynamic resistance affects performance of the aircraft.
New pilot models are added for the following aircraft:
a-20g
a-26c
b-17e
b-17e_late
b-17g
b_24d
b_25
beaufighter mk21
beaufort mkviii
boomerang mki
boomerang mkii
wirraway
f-86a-5
f9f-5

Maps and missions.

[Domination]
Stalingrad winter: 3rd airfield is added, amount of tickets for both teams is increased.
Zhengzhou. 3rd airfield is added, amount of tickets for both teams is increased.
Peleliu. Ticket loss speed is reduced if both teams have captured airfields.
Mozdok. Ticket loss speed is reduced if both teams have captured airfields.
Krymsk. Time to capture airfield on this map is the same as for other maps
[Ground strike]
Cliffed coast - spawning points for the teams is changed to improve balance.
Stalingrad - spawning points for the teams is changed to improve balance.
Ground units are now divided into 2 groups – attacking and supporting, The victory comes after destroying the attacking group, support units are not required to be destroyed (but it still brings income). That means that “gremlins” will hardly affect the battle – ground units kill each other only on the line of contact.

[LoCo99]

nikde nemůžu najít changelog, na jejich webu je jen 1.31

dokonce se různě lze dočíst, že už je to jak Wotko -> pay to win za gold ammo, wtf ?

[HEAD]

changelog sem postnul
http://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/ ... pdate-133/

Hm tak sem se dozvedel, ze zase neopravili vsechny spojenecky FM.Vyvojari sou fakt neschopny idioti.Nic jinyho se na to rict neda.

[LoCo99]

jo už to vidim.... no nevim, ocenil bych kdyby arkádu nechali takovou jaká byla ale opravili to co nefunguje jak má

[HEAD]

Tak po par hrach v Hb musim rict, ze neopravili vubec zadny Fm.Neschopny idioti..No nic tak zase pauza do dalsiho updatu.

[havli]

Mno, tak z me strany rozhodne zklamani. Zda se mi, ze nejak zmrsili MG-151 kanony, takze ikdyz jsem nahodil na F4 ty dva pridavny, tak je to slabota. Dale Me 410 se mi zdaji nejak tezkopadnejssi nez driv. Hispano Mk II kanony se zasekavaji po par strelach. P38, P47 a corsairy porad maji mizerny FM... V bitve jsou proti mne bezne stroje o nekolik tieru vys (to bylo i pred patchem). Ground strike skonci ikdyz nebyly vsechny pozemni jednotky zniceny. Pridali hromadu (zbytecnych) ruskych letadel, kdezto japonci treba maji strom skoro prazdny...

Navic vsude cpou reklamu na premium ucty a FB... proste bleh. Doufam ze to zlepsi, protoze uz me to pomalu prestava bavit.

// btw

[Jackiii]

Nehral sem WT nekolik tydnu a nejak sem dnesni patch nepochopil. BF109 v plnym vyzkumu totalne neovladatelny. Nechapu od kdy se v HB automaticky zatahuje podvozek, co to je za novou feature.

[Krteq]

On se automaticky zatahuje podvozek?

...Ground strike skonci ikdyz nebyly vsechny pozemni jednotky zniceny...

Co takhle si přečíst changelog

Ground units are now divided into 2 groups – attacking and supporting, The victory comes after destroying the attacking group, support units are not required to be destroyed (but it still brings income). That means that «gremlins» will hardly affect the battle – ground units kill each other only on the line of contact.