havli píše:Objevila se tady informace, ze 4 moduly = podstatne mensi dosazitelna frekvence... a zaroven, ze takt RAM ma slusnej vliv na (herni) vykon. Samozrejme to je vsechno neoverene, ale 2x8 bych uz dneska nebral. 2x16 vystaci nejakej ten patek a pak se uvidi jak dal.
Otázka je od koho pocházejí ty informace o menší dosažitelné frekvenci, zdali od člověka který si to ověřil v praxi, nebo od někoho kdo si jen přečetl manuál.
Please refer to below table for DDR4 UDIMM maximum frequency support.
Ryzen Series CPUs:
UDIMM Memory Slot Frequency(MHZ)
A1 A2 B1 B2
- SR - - 2667
- DR - - 2667
- SR - SR 2667
- DR - DR 2400-2667
SR SR SR SR 2133-2400
SR/DR DR SR/DR DR 1866-2133
SR: Single rank DIMM, 1Rx4 or 1Rx8 on DIMM module label
DR: Dual rank DIMM, 2Rx4 or 2Rx8 on DIMM module label
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havli píše:Prave proto mi pripada jako dobra volba 2x16GB. Pripadne 1x16 pro ty kdo setri, ale tezko rict jak moc se single-channel podepise na vykonu.
K hiend CPU patri hiend ram.... obzvlast kdyz se tady vsichni ohani tim, jak bude 8jadro Ryzen drtic do budoucna. Ja jsem koupil 16GB v roce 2011 a nikdy jsem toho nelitoval. Ted uz doba pokrocila a 32GB neni zase nejak extra moc.
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Souhlasím s Havlim, doteď mám v pc 16GB DDR3, ale v šuplíku už čeká na nový Ryzen 32GB. Plánuju upgrade na několik let kdy budu vždy obměňovat pouze grafiku.
Vzhledem k tomu jak dlouho tady ještě DDR4 bude tak bych se taky těch 16GB modulů nebál. Je to jako koupit 2x8GB v době Sandyho, taky dobrej deal co člověku vydrží až do příchodu jiných pamětí na total jiných socketech a architekturách. Samo sebou 2x8GB taky chyba neni, bude to stačit ještě dlouho pokud na tom člověk nedělá vyloženě paměťově náročný věci.
On nepíše který Ryzen bude kupovat, jen, že to chce na hry. Takže jestli to bude třeba 1600X, tak za stávajících cen DDR4 kup 16GB. Singlechannel určitě ne.
arach píše:olšan: IMHO...co to meles, tak budto kecaj na czc nebo kecas ty...IMHO....
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to presme sedi s tou jejich tabulkou
To proto, že pro osmijádra byly parametry známý už dřív. Ty seděj. Ale pro šestijádro (R5 1600C) vzali ty uniklý parametry tuším z videocardz, který neseděj. AMD ukázalo tehnle týden na slajdu, že takt je 3,6 - 4,0. Blo to na TPU, psal jsem o tom u nás, už se mi ten odkaz nechce znovu hledat.
8-core processor outscored AMD Ryzen 1800X 8-core competitor in the face of Intel Core i7 6900K in gaming tests
AMD Ryzen processors have already done a lot of noise in the computer world, despite the fact that they have not yet been released to the market. The official announcement took place a week ago, and after 2 days, ie, February 28, they will already be presented. Let me remind you that pre-order models of AMD Ryzen 7 can be done now. More low-end models will be presented in the second half. Throughout the time we have all seen a lot of leaks, showing the performance of new products. One can already say that "stones" turned out excellent, and AMD, as finally return to the market of high-performance processors, where there now reigns giant Intel. All performance tests leaked touch synthetics, and most concerned by the question: "What will be the performance of new products in the games?" Now that the veil of secrecy once priotkryli leak, where the processor AMD Ryzen 7 1800X and its Intel Core i7 6900K direct competitor to have been tested in the gaming test.
AMD Ryzen 7 1800X (worth $ 499) and Intel Core i7 6900K competitor (worth $ 1050): According to the source, the two 8-core processor were taken for testing. Testing was carried out in the game Sniper Elite 4, the equipment specification can be seen below:
proc by to byla kravina? v DX12 hre je to dosti pravdepodobne pravda
az budou testovat DX11 dying light nebo nejakou jinou singlethread zamerenou hru tak je jasny ze jim vyjde i7-7700k jako lepsi CPU (ale i oproti X99 platforme)
hej, večir som si to prečital na tablete v posteli ,
a bola to tiež oda o Ryzene,PCt a zlem Obrovy
*no ale sa tam furt opakuje ze 1800X bude ako 6900K , dokonca lepsie za polovicu
Dal by panbožko aby to bola pravda
* ale inak tak ako Obrov clanok, tak aj toto bolo usmevne a tak pisal s laskou
o Ryzen , ze az prehlasil ako Boh, ze on nas ma vsetkych rad
Intel is ready to conduct explanatory work with the authors of AMD Ryzen Reviews
Even without using the methods of industrial espionage, Intel company has been able to form some idea of the level of AMD Ryzen processor speed. Mass leakage has occurred against the will of AMD, but against such a buzz around the announcement of such a situation does not surprise anyone, and do not bother. However, extensive officially approved for publication processors AMD Ryzen reviews adorn the pages of leading sites in the next few days, and as long as the persons concerned are engaged in preparatory work.
Do not remain aloof and Intel company, according to the resource SemiAccurate, which cultivates not only the independence of the advertising revenue, living on the proceeds from the subscriptions, but also despise any kind of obligation to disclose information. Associates report that some observers, preparing materials on processors AMD Ryzen received letters from Intel last week with the offer by contacting the company prior to the publication Ryzen reviews. It seems that Intel is ready to announce something important that can affect the conclusions published at the end of review.
By the way, it can be quite harmless information about the upcoming price drop on Intel processors, and to speak about the pressure on the press prematurely. Especially as more and more signs indicate a willingness to offer their Intel processors at lower prices after the market Ryzen 7. Intel has good reasons to fight for the productive segment of the desktop processors, because the company's revenue is still heavily dependent on the production for the PC segment and gaming accessories - is that part of the market, which continues to benefit from strong demand amid a general decline of interest in traditional desktop computers.
Source: overclockers.ru
Vyzera to tak , ze Intel sa boji Zen procesorov... Dufam , ze pre AMD vyjdu recenzie pozitivne. Nemam rad Intel , keby neboli FX fail doteraz by som mal CPU od AMD. Nepaci sa mi politika firmy Intel a toto co je hore pisane smrdi problemom pre Intel , zrejme uz asi zabudol na pokutu z minulosti...
Ja jsem koupil 16GB v roce 2011 a nikdy jsem toho nelitoval. Ted uz doba pokrocila a 32GB neni zase nejak extra moc.
